Zmanim settings

More accurate zmanim, explained

Both zmanim settings follow the Alter Rebbe, the way Chabad.org's calendar does. More accurate is now Kosher.Chat's default, and it goes after the last few seconds: it works out the Alter Rebbe's own words the way they happen in real life, and uses finer math. Chabad.org's times are right to the minute for everyday use, and you can switch to them any time. Here is every difference, with the numbers.

What changes on your screen

More accurate compared with Chabad.org, in Crown Heights over a full year.

  • Dawn (alos)95 to 163 s later
  • MisheyakirSame, within 5 s
  • SunriseSame, within 4 s
  • Latest Shema29 to 38 s later
  • Latest Shacharis18 to 26 s later
  • Midday (chatzos)Same, within 4 s
  • Mincha gedola2 to 7 s earlier
  • Mincha ketana33 to 43 s earlier
  • Plag hamincha46 to 59 s earlier
  • Candle lighting21 to 29 s earlier
  • Sunset21 to 29 s earlier
  • Nightfall (tzeis)113 to 146 s earlier
  • Shabbos ends (havdalah)Same moment
  • MidnightSame, within 4 s

Shown to the minute, most of these come out the same or one minute apart. Dawn and nightfall are usually two minutes apart. Farther north the seconds grow a little; nearer the equator they shrink. One honest caveat: the air bends sunlight a little differently every evening, so on any given day sunrise and sunset can shift by about half a minute either way (see “Today's weather” below). Treat every time, in either setting, as good to about half a minute.

The Alter Rebbe's words, the way they happen in real life

The Alter Rebbe defines true sunrise and sunset by sunlight on the tops of the high mountains of Eretz Yisrael, and the sunset we see by sunlight on the treetops. These are about measuring those moments the way they really happen.

  • Light bends on its way up the mountain

    How far below the horizon the sun can be and still light the mountaintop.

    Chabad.org uses
    0.75°, a straight line
    More accurate uses
    0.82°, light that bends like real light

    24 to 28 s true sunrise earlier, true sunset later

    Light bends on its way up the mountain

    In short

    Light doesn't travel through the air in a perfectly straight line. It curves gently along the Earth, so a mountaintop keeps catching the sun a little longer than a straight-line drawing says.

    Mountaintop, 546 mReal light bends over the curveStraight line: blockedSun, just below the horizonEarth's curve, exaggerated
    A straight line from the peak to the setting sun would hit the curve of the Earth. Real light bends over it, so the peak still glows.

    The details

    The Alter Rebbe's true sunset is when the light leaves “the tops of the high mountains of Eretz Yisrael”. In 1975 Rabbi Sholom DovBer Levine worked this out with Mount Carmel, 546 m (1,790 ft) high, the mountain the Gemara uses for sunset.

    He drew the last ray from the sun to the peak as a straight line. That puts the sun 0.75° below the sea-level horizon when the ray leaves the peak. Real light bends down a little the whole way, so the peak keeps it until the sun is 0.82° down. It's the same bending that lets you see the sun for about two minutes after it has really set.

    More accurate uses the standard formula for a ray grazing the Earth (Sweer, 1938, as built into the astronomy-engine library).

    True sunrise, on its own
    24 to 28 s earlier
    True sunset, on its own
    24 to 28 s later

    יניח חמה בראש הכרמל

    Let him place the sun at the top of the Carmel.

    Gemara, Shabbos 35a

    חמה סמוך לשקיעתה נראית על ראשי ההרים

    Close to its setting, the sun is seen on the mountaintops.

    Rashi there

    The 546 m calculation: a straight tangent from the summit, 45′, plus 50′ for sunset at sea level.

    Rabbi S.D. Levine, Kuntres Neros Shabbos Kodesh, part 2 (1975), p. 9
  • When does the light leave the mountaintop?

    The Alter Rebbe's words are “when the light leaves”. How much of the sun has set by then?

    Chabad.org uses
    The whole sun gone
    More accurate uses
    Half the sun gone, when the light really fades

    84 to 99 s true sunrise later, true sunset earlier

    When does the light leave the mountaintop?

    In short

    Chabad.org's angle waits for the very last sliver of the sun to set from the peak. But in real life the light on a peak already looks like shade once about half the sun is down. Rabbi Levine saw this himself.

    Sun upthe peak glowsMore accurateHalf the sun downthe light looks goneChabad.orgLast sliver gonethe very end
    Seen from below, the peak stops glowing well before the last sliver sets.

    אזי היא שקיעה האמיתית, שהוא סילוק וביאת האור מראשי ההרים הגבוהים שבארץ ישראל

    That is the true sunset, which is when the light leaves the tops of the high mountains of Eretz Yisrael.

    The Alter Rebbe, Seder Hachnasas Shabbos

    What Rabbi Levine found

    He went and looked. Once most of the sun has set, he writes, there is almost no visible difference between sunlight and shade on the mountain, so true sunset must come at least a minute earlier than his tables. In his 2013 notes he adds that at that moment, someone standing on the peak can still see close to half the sun.

    שוב אין נראה כמעט שום חילוק בין אור השמש לצילו

    There is hardly any visible difference anymore between the sunlight and its shade.

    Rabbi S.D. Levine, Dover Shalom (2003), p. 152 (קנב)

    יוכל לראות עדיין קרוב לחצי גלגל השמש

    He can still see close to half the sun's disk.

    Rabbi S.D. Levine, notes to Seder Hachnasas Shabbos (Kehot 2013), note 10, p. 10 (י)

    He left his printed tables as they were, calling it too small a change to pin to a time. More accurate takes that moment: the sun's center on the mountaintop's horizon, half above it and half below. It fits the physics too: at the horizon, sunlight crosses almost 40 times as much air as at noon, so half a sun barely stands out from the glowing sky.

    Together with the bending

    True sunrise and sunset come when the sun is 1.39° below the horizon instead of 1.58°. The halachic day gets 2 to 2½ minutes shorter: true sunrise 61 to 73 s later, true sunset 61 to 73 s earlier. Every zman counted in halachic hours moves with it:

    Latest Shema
    30 to 36 s later
    Latest Shacharis
    20 to 24 s later
    Mincha ketana
    35 to 42 s earlier
    Plag hamincha
    48 to 57 s earlier
  • The sunset you see

    The time printed as “sunset”, and candle lighting 18 minutes before it.

    Chabad.org uses
    0.83°: the last sliver at a sea-level horizon
    More accurate uses
    0.76°: light leaving the treetops, the Alter Rebbe's sunset

    23 to 28 s sunset and candle lighting earlier

    The sunset you see

    In short

    The Alter Rebbe describes the sunset we see as the moment sunlight leaves the treetops and tall roofs in open, flat land. Measured the same way as the mountaintop, that comes about 25 seconds before the last sliver of the sun drops below a sea-level horizon, which is the “sunset” most calendars print.

    about 25 secondsLight leaves the treetopsMore accurate's sunsetLast sliver at sea levelChabad.org's sunset−25 s0
    Candle lighting is 18 minutes before sunset in both settings, so it moves earlier by the same amount.

    להדליק קודם שקיעת החמה, שקיעה הנראית, דהיינו בעוד השמש זורח בראשי האילנות בשדה בארץ המישור שאין שום הר במערב, או בראשי גגים הגבוהים בעיר

    Light before sunset, the visible sunset: while the sun still shines on the treetops in a field, in flat land with no mountain to the west, or on the tops of tall roofs in town.

    The Alter Rebbe, Seder Hachnasas Shabbos

    The details

    Rabbi Levine takes the treetops and tall roofs as 30 m (about 100 ft). From up there, bent light lingers until the sun is about 0.19° lower than at sea level. But just as on the mountain, the light looks gone once half the sun is down, which is 0.27° sooner. So the treetops go dark a little before the last sliver leaves a sea-level horizon.

    Sunrise stays at the usual sea-level time. The Alter Rebbe gives no treetop rule for sunrise, and mirroring this one would make sunrise earlier, the lenient side.

    Sunset
    23 to 28 s earlier
    Candle lighting
    23 to 28 s earlier
  • Dawn (alos hashachar)

    How far below the horizon the sun is at dawn.

    Chabad.org uses
    16.9°
    More accurate uses
    16.6°

    95 to 161 s dawn later (longer in summer)

    Dawn (alos hashachar)

    In short

    The Alter Rebbe's dawn is 72 minutes before true sunrise, measured in Jerusalem on the day of the equinox. To use it anywhere and in any season, it becomes an angle: how far below the horizon the sun is at that moment. True sunrise moved, so the dawn angle moves too: 16.6° instead of 16.9°.

    horizonTrue sunrise: sun 1.39° downDawn, 72 minutes earlier: 16.6° down
    72 minutes is 4 mil of 18 minutes each. On the equinox in Jerusalem, 72 minutes before true sunrise the sun is 16.6° down. That angle is then used everywhere, all year.

    מסתבר יותר, שחושבים את 72 הדקות מעת נץ החמה האמיתי

    It makes more sense to count the 72 minutes from true sunrise.

    Rabbi S.D. Levine, notes to Seder Hachnasas Shabbos (Kehot 2013), note 92, p. 51 (נא)

    Where Chabad.org's 16.9° comes from

    It matches 76 minutes before the sunrise we see, in Jerusalem on the equinox, as one of the letters printed in the same book counts it (p. 75, עה). Counted the Alter Rebbe's way, 72 minutes from Chabad.org's own true sunrise, it would be 16.79°.

    Dawn
    95 to 161 s later
    Most in
    early summer, when the sun climbs at a slant
  • Nightfall (tzeis hakochavim)

    How far below the horizon the sun is when three medium stars come out.

    Chabad.org uses
    6°
    More accurate uses
    5.64°

    114 to 145 s nightfall earlier; Shabbos still ends at the same time

    Nightfall (tzeis hakochavim)

    In short

    Nightfall is 20 minutes after true sunset, measured in Jerusalem on the equinox. True sunset moved about a minute earlier, so nightfall's angle moves too: 5.64° instead of 6°. Shabbos and yom tov still end at the havdalah time, which doesn't change.

    horizonTrue sunset: sun 1.39° downNightfall, 20 minutes later: 5.64°Chabad.org: 6°
    On the equinox in Jerusalem, 20 minutes after true sunset the sun is 5.64° down.

    וזמן צאת הכוכבים הבינונים הוא כשהשמש יורדת 5°50' תחת האופק (20 דקות אחרי השקיעה האמיתית)

    Medium stars come out when the sun is 5°50′ below the horizon (20 minutes after true sunset).

    Rabbi S.D. Levine, notes to Seder Hachnasas Shabbos (Kehot 2013), p. 21 (כא)

    That is Rabbi Levine's own method, with his true sunset. Chabad.org's 6° rounds a different figure, 5.95° (24 minutes after the sunset we see), which Rabbi Levine sets aside on the same page. With the true sunset above, his method gives 5.64°.

    Nightfall
    114 to 145 s earlier
    Shabbos and yom tov end
    unchanged (havdalah time, 8.5°)

Finer math

These don't change any definition. They just compute the same thing more exactly.

  • Where the sun is

    Every zman starts from knowing exactly where the sun is in the sky.

    Chabad.org uses
    NOAA's formula, up to 3.5 s off NASA
    More accurate uses
    A finer model, within 0.25 s of NASA

    about 1.1 s, up to 3.5 s either way

    Where the sun is

    In short

    Chabad.org uses NOAA's sun formula, accurate to about a second. More accurate uses the astronomy-engine model, checked against NASA's own record of the sun to within a quarter second.

    NOAA formula (Chabad.org)3.5 s at worstastronomy-engine (More accurate)0.25 s at worsttypical dayworst day of the year
    Seconds off NASA JPL's DE421 ephemeris, over a full year in Crown Heights.

    What's left is mostly the Earth's own tiny wobbles in its spin, which nobody can predict years ahead. More accurate also uses the sun's real size each day: it looks about 3% bigger in January, when the Earth is closest to it.

  • Rounding to the minute

    Calendars show whole minutes, so every time gets rounded.

    Chabad.org uses
    The nearest minute, for sunrise, sunset, candle lighting and havdalah
    More accurate uses
    Always the safe way: never early for a start, never late for a deadline

    up to 30 s on the minute shown

    Rounding to the minute

    In short

    Rounding to the nearest minute can show a time up to 30 seconds on the lenient side. More accurate always rounds the safe way.

    7:217:22Real sunrise: 7:21:29Chabad.org: 7:21 (29 s early)More accurate: 7:22
    A sunrise at 7:21:29. The nearest minute is 7:21, half a minute before the sun is really up.

    Start times (sunrise, mincha, havdalah) round up. Deadlines (Shema, sunset, candle lighting) round down. Chabad.org already does this for most zmanim; sunrise, sunset, candle lighting and havdalah are the exceptions.

  • Dawn in the far north in summer

    Places like London, where the summer sun never sinks low enough for the dawn angle.

    Chabad.org uses
    12 hours before midday
    More accurate uses
    The sun's real lowest point of the night

    up to 25 s only far north, around summer

    Dawn in the far north in summer

    In short

    When the sun never gets low enough for dawn, Chabad.org's own article says dawn begins when the sun passes its lowest point of the night. More accurate finds that exact moment. Chabad.org's site uses 12 hours before midday, which can be up to 25 seconds off.

    horizonLondon, late June16.6° down: the sun never gets this low tonightLowest point: dawn begins10 PM1 AM4 AM
    London in late June: the sun bottoms out about 15° down, never the 16.6° that dawn needs.
  • Midday (chatzos)

    The middle of the day, which mincha gedola counts from.

    Chabad.org uses
    The middle of sunrise and sunset
    More accurate uses
    The middle of true sunrise and true sunset

    under 1 s either way

    Midday (chatzos)

    In short

    Chabad.org's article puts midday halfway between true sunrise and true sunset; its site uses ordinary sunrise and sunset. Both stretch the day by the same amount on each side, so the middle lands within a second.

    Sunrise to sunsetChabad.org's siteTrue sunrise to sunsetMore accurateMidday: the same moment, within a second
    Wider or narrower, the two days share the same middle.

    Mincha gedola follows the article too: 6½ halachic hours after true sunrise, rather than half an hour after midday.

Looked at, but not used

Good questions we checked, and why the answer stays the same.

  • Taller mountains

    Which “high mountains of Eretz Yisrael” does the Alter Rebbe mean?

    We use
    Mount Carmel, 546 m, as Rabbi Levine does
    The other view
    The hills around Jerusalem, 700 to 800 m (Rabbi Feigelstock)

    92 to 110 s true sunset later than ours, if used

    Taller mountains

    In short

    Rabbi Yosef Yitzchok Feigelstock reads “the high mountains” as the taller hills around Jerusalem, and the Alter Rebbe's “about four minutes” as measured in Eretz Yisrael. His letter in the 2013 edition puts true sunset later. It is a real disagreement.

    sea levelMount Carmel546 m (1,790 ft)Hills around Jerusalem700 to 800 mRabbi Levine (used here)Rabbi Feigelstock
    Higher mountains keep the light longer, so true sunset would come later.

    Why we stay with Rabbi Levine

    The Alter Rebbe writes that where he lived, stars come out half an hour after true sunset, which is 34 minutes after the sunset we see: a four-minute gap in “these countries”. Rabbi Levine's Carmel gives about four minutes there. It is also the reading Chabad.org and most Chabad calendars follow.

    ובמדינות אלו זמן צאת ג' כוכבים בינונים בימים השוים הוא בכמו חצי שעה בקירוב אחר שקיעה האמיתית, שהן ל"ד חלקי ששיים בקירוב אחר שקיעה הנראית

    In these countries, three medium stars come out at the equinox about half an hour after true sunset, which is about 34 minutes after the visible sunset.

    The Alter Rebbe, Seder Hachnasas Shabbos
  • Today's weather

    How much the air bends light changes with temperature and pressure.

    We use
    The standard average, as every calendar does
    The other view
    Each day's actual air

    about 35 s either way on a typical day; sometimes 2 min or more

    Today's weather

    In short

    A cold, clear evening can keep the sun in view a bit longer, a hot hazy one a bit less. Nobody can know tomorrow's air today, so every calendar, and both of our settings, use the standard average.

    When 135 sunsets were timed in Edmonton, the bending varied by about 0.11° from day to day. In Crown Heights that is about 35 seconds either way on a typical day, and on unusual evenings two minutes or more. That's one more reason to leave yourself a few minutes.

    Refraction at the horizon averaged 0.58°, with a spread of 0.11°.

    Peterson, Lozowski, Hube and Sampson, Publications of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific (2003)
  • Hills, buildings and your own height

    A hill to the west hides the sun sooner; a high floor sees it longer.

    We use
    Sea level, open flat land
    The other view
    Your spot's real height and skyline

    about 90 s per 100 m (330 ft) of height, if it counted

    Hills, buildings and your own height

    In short

    The Alter Rebbe already tells us how to measure: sunset in an open field in flat land with no mountain to the west, and true sunset by the mountains of Eretz Yisrael wherever you are. So a hill nearby, or living on a high floor, doesn't change these zmanim. Like every printed calendar, both settings give times for sea level.

Which setting should I use?

More accurate is the default, for the Alter Rebbe's definitions worked out to the second. Some of its times come a little earlier than Chabad.org's and some a little later. If your shul or community follows Chabad.org's calendar, switch to the Chabad.org setting, which matches it to the minute. For questions of halacha in practice, ask your rav. Either way, don't cut it close: leave yourself a few minutes.

You can switch any time under the gear icon at the bottom of the chat sidebar, under Zmanim.

Sources

  • The Alter Rebbe, Seder Hachnasas Shabbos, printed in his Siddur. Kehot edition (2013) with notes and letters edited by Rabbi Sholom DovBer Levine.
  • Rabbi S.D. Levine, Kuntres Neros Shabbos Kodesh, parts 1 and 2 (1975), and Dover Shalom (2003), pp. 150 to 152.
  • Rabbi Y.Y. Feigelstock, letter in Seder Hachnasas Shabbos (Kehot 2013), pp. 93 to 109.
  • Gemara Shabbos 35a, with Rashi.
  • Chabad.org, About Our Zmanim Calculations.
  • NASA JPL's DE421 ephemeris, and the astronomy-engine library, which uses Sweer's (1938) formula for bent light.
  • Peterson et al. (2003) and Sampson et al. (2005), on how much sunset refraction varies.

All seconds are for Crown Heights from November 2026 to October 2027, worked out from each setting's own code. Updated October 2026.