Zmanim settings
More accurate zmanim, explained
Both zmanim settings follow the Alter Rebbe, the way Chabad.org's calendar does. More accurate is now Kosher.Chat's default, and it goes after the last few seconds: it works out the Alter Rebbe's own words the way they happen in real life, and uses finer math. Chabad.org's times are right to the minute for everyday use, and you can switch to them any time. Here is every difference, with the numbers.
What changes on your screen
More accurate compared with Chabad.org, in Crown Heights over a full year.
- Dawn (alos)95 to 163 s later
- MisheyakirSame, within 5 s
- SunriseSame, within 4 s
- Latest Shema29 to 38 s later
- Latest Shacharis18 to 26 s later
- Midday (chatzos)Same, within 4 s
- Mincha gedola2 to 7 s earlier
- Mincha ketana33 to 43 s earlier
- Plag hamincha46 to 59 s earlier
- Candle lighting21 to 29 s earlier
- Sunset21 to 29 s earlier
- Nightfall (tzeis)113 to 146 s earlier
- Shabbos ends (havdalah)Same moment
- MidnightSame, within 4 s
Shown to the minute, most of these come out the same or one minute apart. Dawn and nightfall are usually two minutes apart. Farther north the seconds grow a little; nearer the equator they shrink. One honest caveat: the air bends sunlight a little differently every evening, so on any given day sunrise and sunset can shift by about half a minute either way (see “Today's weather” below). Treat every time, in either setting, as good to about half a minute.
The Alter Rebbe's words, the way they happen in real life
The Alter Rebbe defines true sunrise and sunset by sunlight on the tops of the high mountains of Eretz Yisrael, and the sunset we see by sunlight on the treetops. These are about measuring those moments the way they really happen.
Light bends on its way up the mountain
How far below the horizon the sun can be and still light the mountaintop.
- Chabad.org uses
- 0.75°, a straight line
- More accurate uses
- 0.82°, light that bends like real light
24 to 28 s true sunrise earlier, true sunset later
When does the light leave the mountaintop?
The Alter Rebbe's words are “when the light leaves”. How much of the sun has set by then?
- Chabad.org uses
- The whole sun gone
- More accurate uses
- Half the sun gone, when the light really fades
84 to 99 s true sunrise later, true sunset earlier
The sunset you see
The time printed as “sunset”, and candle lighting 18 minutes before it.
- Chabad.org uses
- 0.83°: the last sliver at a sea-level horizon
- More accurate uses
- 0.76°: light leaving the treetops, the Alter Rebbe's sunset
23 to 28 s sunset and candle lighting earlier
Dawn (alos hashachar)
How far below the horizon the sun is at dawn.
- Chabad.org uses
- 16.9°
- More accurate uses
- 16.6°
95 to 161 s dawn later (longer in summer)
Nightfall (tzeis hakochavim)
How far below the horizon the sun is when three medium stars come out.
- Chabad.org uses
- 6°
- More accurate uses
- 5.64°
114 to 145 s nightfall earlier; Shabbos still ends at the same time
Finer math
These don't change any definition. They just compute the same thing more exactly.
Where the sun is
Every zman starts from knowing exactly where the sun is in the sky.
- Chabad.org uses
- NOAA's formula, up to 3.5 s off NASA
- More accurate uses
- A finer model, within 0.25 s of NASA
about 1.1 s, up to 3.5 s either way
Rounding to the minute
Calendars show whole minutes, so every time gets rounded.
- Chabad.org uses
- The nearest minute, for sunrise, sunset, candle lighting and havdalah
- More accurate uses
- Always the safe way: never early for a start, never late for a deadline
up to 30 s on the minute shown
Dawn in the far north in summer
Places like London, where the summer sun never sinks low enough for the dawn angle.
- Chabad.org uses
- 12 hours before midday
- More accurate uses
- The sun's real lowest point of the night
up to 25 s only far north, around summer
Midday (chatzos)
The middle of the day, which mincha gedola counts from.
- Chabad.org uses
- The middle of sunrise and sunset
- More accurate uses
- The middle of true sunrise and true sunset
under 1 s either way
Looked at, but not used
Good questions we checked, and why the answer stays the same.
Taller mountains
Which “high mountains of Eretz Yisrael” does the Alter Rebbe mean?
- We use
- Mount Carmel, 546 m, as Rabbi Levine does
- The other view
- The hills around Jerusalem, 700 to 800 m (Rabbi Feigelstock)
92 to 110 s true sunset later than ours, if used
Today's weather
How much the air bends light changes with temperature and pressure.
- We use
- The standard average, as every calendar does
- The other view
- Each day's actual air
about 35 s either way on a typical day; sometimes 2 min or more
Hills, buildings and your own height
A hill to the west hides the sun sooner; a high floor sees it longer.
- We use
- Sea level, open flat land
- The other view
- Your spot's real height and skyline
about 90 s per 100 m (330 ft) of height, if it counted
Which setting should I use?
More accurate is the default, for the Alter Rebbe's definitions worked out to the second. Some of its times come a little earlier than Chabad.org's and some a little later. If your shul or community follows Chabad.org's calendar, switch to the Chabad.org setting, which matches it to the minute. For questions of halacha in practice, ask your rav. Either way, don't cut it close: leave yourself a few minutes.
You can switch any time under the gear icon at the bottom of the chat sidebar, under Zmanim.
Sources
- The Alter Rebbe, Seder Hachnasas Shabbos, printed in his Siddur. Kehot edition (2013) with notes and letters edited by Rabbi Sholom DovBer Levine.
- Rabbi S.D. Levine, Kuntres Neros Shabbos Kodesh, parts 1 and 2 (1975), and Dover Shalom (2003), pp. 150 to 152.
- Rabbi Y.Y. Feigelstock, letter in Seder Hachnasas Shabbos (Kehot 2013), pp. 93 to 109.
- Gemara Shabbos 35a, with Rashi.
- Chabad.org, About Our Zmanim Calculations.
- NASA JPL's DE421 ephemeris, and the astronomy-engine library, which uses Sweer's (1938) formula for bent light.
- Peterson et al. (2003) and Sampson et al. (2005), on how much sunset refraction varies.
All seconds are for Crown Heights from November 2026 to October 2027, worked out from each setting's own code. Updated October 2026.